Ndatira reflected on his own trajectory into print, noting that his engagement deepened after moving to London, particularly through his work on Issue 11 of Boy.Brother.Friend. Before that, his curatorial instincts played out online – collecting and sharing imagery via early platforms like Tumblr and Instagram, at a time when the latter was still dominated by personal snapshots. His eye for curation quickly gained attention, eventually attracting figures such as John Galliano.
Themes of nostalgia, ephemera, and material sensitivity ran throughout the discussion. Sumner spoke about his attraction to objects that carry memory – bags, paper, colour, and texture – and how these elements inform his publishing practice. He described projects like To Have & To Hold which have been printed on delicate bible paper, designed to echo the fragility of the objects they reference. For him, print is inseparable from touch, sequence, and experience – the act of turning a page.